A blog conversation about the myth of black on black crime.

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“On behalf of Artists Against Police Violence we extend our thoughts and solidarities to the Black community in Charleston, South Carolina, and those murdered in the Charleston Church shooting.”

The more I think about that statement, the odder it gets. I mean: Does this group you speak for actually think the Police are somehow responsible for this? Why else would you use this language?

– A reader

Artists Against Police Violence is the name of their organization. It doesn’t mean they think the police were involved in the Charleston shootings. I think knowing the names and faces of the dead is a good thing. Don’t you?

– Fred

I had no issue with your main theme. I just found it odd the group would speak through you using that title, unless it was for the purpose of sending a themed message.

– A reader

I chose to post their graphic. Nothing odd about it. Many groups with a wide arrange of agendas have spoken out on what happened in Charleston. What on earth could be your objection?

– Fred

I had no issue with your main theme. I just found it odd the group would speak through you using that title, unless it was for the purpose of sending a themed message.

Wasn’t an objection; your choice to speak for that group (instead of, say, Retired Teachers) just raised questions in my mind. I guess you’ve answered them.

– A reader

I would want all retired teachers to speak out against the race-based murder of nine African Americans. Why aren’t you speaking out about it instead of focusing on my choices of graphics?

– Fred

Because, Fred, I would not suppose that anyone would speak FOR race-based murder. Why – every time some sick soul commits race-based murder – is it necessary for us/me to say we/I condemn the act?

What is it you assume about me if I fail to proclaim abhorrence at every instance of human depravity? I also condemn the plague of black-on-black violence that is a very serious, but largely ignored, problem – both nationally and in the City of Chicago. How about joining me in condemning that?

I questioned your choice of “graphics” because it seemed designed to send an implicit message about police responsibility – at a time when police are being criticized for racial insensitivity – that I had not understood to be the fact in this case.

You deny sending that message, so that’s that.

– A reader

Yes. We proclaim our abhorrence to every instance of race-based murder as a requirement be be part of the human community. The “plague of black on black violence” is a myth. Cite your source.

– Fred

I have looked at the sources and see they are ones you would be unlikely to accept. In fact, I will – instead – accept your contention that black on black violence is a myth, and no longer speak of it.

To quote Gilda Radner, “Never mind.”

– A reader

Ah. Not so fast my friend. Neither you nor I referred to black on black violence. You called it “the plague of black on black violence” suggesting that it is unique to one race. If you have evidence that this is true, share it.

 – Fred

Black on black violence is a myth…REALLY

 – Another reader

“Really” is not a source. Violent crime is function of availability of guns, proximity and poverty. A unique “plague of back on black violence” is not supported by data. Show me otherwise.

– Fred

 

Merriam-Webster defines “plague” (non-medically) as, “a disastrous evil or affliction”. Nothing about being unique.

Communicating with you (i.e., attempting a rational debate) is very difficult when you define your own terms on the fly, and decide (by “choosing” to use “graphics”) to be official spokesman for groups ranging from “Artists” to the entire “Human Community”. But as you often point out, it’s your blog, and you can make your own rules.

I, for one, give up.

– A reader

So you couldn’t find any evidence, huh?

– Fred

On the myth of Black-On-Black crime.