Glen Brown responds to Haisman. You didn’t know what to tell a legislator what it is we’re for? Here’s what we’re for.

Glen Brown:

“I think the constant saying NO was the danger Fred. Legislators have been saying to me for three and half years ….’ Ok …..OK — I get it you don’t like ‘This New Bill_______ ‘(fill in the number) but Bob give us something to Vote FOR! Offer a union counter to the Pension Killers! I can’t just keep on voting No!”  -Bob Haisman.

Here is the conversation we should be having; here is something to consider and “vote for”:

These are solutions for the state’s “debt” and “revenue” problems:

• The current “Pension Ramp” does not work for the five public pension systems. The “Ramp” entails larger payments today as a result of the 1995 funding law – Public Act 88-0593 – to pay the pensions systems what the state owes. The state’s pension debt (money that legislators stole from the public pension funds for decades and used for other services and pet projects) needs to be amortized for a longer frame of time (a flat payment) “just like a home loan that is amortized.” Though the initial payment will be greater in the beginning, over the long term it will become a reduced cost and a smaller percentage of the overall Illinois budget as it is paid off throughout the years;

• Raise revenue to pay all of the state’s debts. With a constitutional amendment, “given an appropriately designed graduated-rate structure, Illinois could cut the overall state income tax burden for 94 percent of all taxpayers—on average providing a tax cut to every taxpayer with less than $150,000 in base income annually, raise at least $2.4 billion more in revenue, and keep the effective individual income tax rate for millionaires well below five percent… Illinois taxpayers with the bottom 94 percent of base income collectively would receive an annual tax cut of $1.06 billion… [T]he combined effect of this policy would be a stimulus to the economy from tax cuts and additional state spending (assuming that the additional revenue is used to fund current public services that would otherwise not be funded) that would create at least 36,000 private sector jobs in communities across Illinois…” (Executive Director Ralph Martire, Center for Tax and Budget Accountability, CTBA); (read HJRCA0002)

• Make the 2011 income tax hike permanent. Designate the additional 2% in income taxes (approx. $7 billion per year) solely for paying down the unfunded liability… Secure enough funding through sale of pension bonds to erase the entire unfunded liability at a suitable rate ($100 billion at 6.5%). This will turn “soft” debt into hard debt and a guaranteed payment for (perhaps) 25 years in an amortized and consistent method to pay back bondholders… Bond companies will now have a commitment to timetables and repayments they do not have currently from Illinois. They may also be willing to assist in this re-amortization of expenses. The annual payment will be known and unchanging as the state moves forward. The economy in Illinois (5th highest GDP in all 50 states) will improve, and there will be a lessening of expense and a growth in revenue. There will be no constitutional fight, and public sector employees’ contributions and good works would be honored…;

• Eliminate the tax loophole for “Tax Increment Financing Districts” to pay the state’s debts;

• Eliminate “Edge Tax Credits” and other tax loopholes for large corporations in Illinois to pay the state’s debts;

• Increase taxation on the wealthy to pay the state’s debts: Illinois is in the top 10 of regressive state tax systems where the wealthiest taxpayers do not pay as much of their incomes in taxes as the poorest and middle-income wage earners (The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy);

• Create a Speculation Sales Tax to pay the state’s debts: a $1 per transaction on contracts traded on Chicago derivative exchanges (Dr. William Barclay);

• Tax services. Broaden the sales tax base to pay the state’s debts: to include selected consumer services. Illinois is one of five states with sales taxes on fewer than 20 services (The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities);

• Shifting the state’s “normal costs” for the public pension systems to school districts will have negative consequences and will not pay the state’s debts. “Property tax bases would not be sufficient to absorb any shift in the employer normal cost for teacher pensions… School districts are demographically and financially varied, and it would be difficult to impose a uniform normal cost shift on them… Illinois ranks last in terms of state spending on K-12 education, and school districts are already relying heavily on local property taxes… While shifting the state’s normal cost obligations onto school districts may provide some relief to the state’s budget, it will not mitigate these financial obligations and will instead push them onto school districts that, on average, already derive the majority of their revenue from local sources” (CTBA). Furthermore, “The State shall provide for an efficient system of high quality public educational institutions and services… The State has the primary responsibility for financing the system of public education (Article X, Section 1 Constitution of the State of Illinois). There needs to be a required annual payment from the state to the pension systems;

• Implement a more timely system of payments (cash management practices are greatly affected by budgetary practices in relation to deferred liabilities which place additional pressures particularly in the first and second quarters of the year to pay those expenses; timing of tax payments also affects the state’s cash flow and should be adjusted accordingly);

• Examine and improve the efficiency of the state’s government. This includes establishing term limits for Illinois legislators…

4 thoughts on “Glen Brown responds to Haisman. You didn’t know what to tell a legislator what it is we’re for? Here’s what we’re for.

  1. HI Glen!!! Good answer! Great List! My blog reply posts have been so long lately — I guess I kind of glossed over The Coalition’s first or “previous” version of SB2404 — in the name of brevity! My Bad!! I Liked the first SB 2404 much more than the second SB 2404! Because just what you said — there were revenue measures to Vote YES on!! Just as you so wonderfully suggest in the headline to your post!!! Thanks for raising those positives!!

    The IEA Lobbied the first SB 2404 bill — long and hard. IEA and The We are One Coalition Certainly tried to get it some attention and Co-Sponsors. We worked pretty hard on the original SB2404 and “The IEA Graduated Income Tax Constitutional Amendment.” Do you remember IEA making a big deal about that CA at the Representative Assembly? And recruiting members to work on “actions” to get it some legislative notice? I don’t know if you signed up for the IEA Graduated Income Tax Efforts. We are not going to give up on that Amendment — IEA will keep pushing it.

    Unfortunately we just were not able to garner much interest in those revenue features …. and then came Madigan’s Freight Train! So my comments were meant to apply to the emergency lobbying around SB1! Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the list! Bob haisman

  2. Most of this makes no sense at all. Why do people think that raising revenue is just a matter if wishing it were so. Don’t they understand that the people and companies that you want so desperately to tax have choices? You want to add a $1 tax to derivative transactions- the current cost of these transactions for most traders is a few cents, and you want to add a $1 tax. With the flip of a switch those transactions move to New York, Atlanta or name a city, and the traders pack it in and take there computer to Florida, there go the higher taxes on the rich and the CME either moves or is out of business.
    As far as issuing debt to pay off the pensions, good idea except you have to have a willing lender. After bondholders in California getting stiffed on this kind of debt it won’t be easy, and you are adding $6 billion in interest on top of it all, brilliant!! Who pays that? Oh yeah, the rich folks that are in Florida. As for sales taxes, adding a burden to the highest tax rates in the country will only make more folks want to live and work here don’t you think?
    And please don’t use the term efficiency and state government in the same sentence. Until we fix the problem of having the folks making the rules about “efficiency” being the same ones that have their livelihoods and chances for graft put at risk by actually being efficient we will be on the treadmill.
    At some point someone has to step back and look at the big picture. State taxes, real estate taxes, unfunded pensions, health care taxes, federal taxes. The only thing going down are wages. How much is enough?

  3. Dear Glen. You are an idealist. You strive for perfection. I think you find pragmatists like me totally unacceptable. I so agree with your above Post! You are 100% Right! That is why the First Coalition Pension bill the original SB2404 had so many of these ideas in it!

    Politics is the art of the practical. The pragmatic not the perfect. YES! we wanted the above prescription! The lobbyists and elected State Leaders for the eight labor unions making up ….”We Are One” presented these ideas. Pushed The original SB2404. The Legislature had no stomach for it. NO Revenues! No matter how many times we came back at them – No Revenues! Especially a Constitutional Amendment for a graduated Income tax. ……”No! No! No! Maybe next year” — they said — …” these things take time. Loop Holes? We don’t want Caterpillar moving to Texas – maybe next year. …..”

    Then Madigan started his Pension show. Then he moved SB 1. No more discussion of the “perfect” — we needed a plan “B” for survival.

    ….Here is my shot at offering a logical (not my strong suit) and “compelling” argument in favor of SB2404……It was “the perfect” it was the prectical.

    First — SB 2404 is a great deal better than SB 1 and unless we came up with an alternative to SB1 — we were going to have it passed. That to me was a compelling reason.

    Second — two very significant considerations were gained in SB 2404 —

    * Contractual enforceable access to state-provided healthcare: Currently, access to state-provided healthcare is not a constitutional right or a contractual right. In fact, the state could remove it at any time. If SB 2404 becomes law, it moves access to state-provided healthcare to a contractual right. Giving people the option to have access to state-provided healthcare ensures that the state healthcare plan, or a comparable plan, be continued. Many members have mistakenly believed that state-provided retiree healthcare, such as TRIP, is something that the state must provide. Not so.

    * Funding guarantee: The state is not constitutionally required to fund the pension systems at any particular amount. Under SB 2404, it will be. More than 15 years ago, IEA was involved in a lawsuit to force the state to pay its portion to the pension systems. The court ruled that the state must honor the pension benefits but the state didn’t have to pay into the systems. Sad, but true. So, what we have put into SB 2404 is language mandating the state pay the systems, and allowing the systems to sue if the state doesn’t pay. Without funding, we jeopardize ever getting our benefits.

    Giving people a choice and providing them something of value they didn’t have before in exchange for accepting a change in benefits (“consideration”). Through lengthy conversations and review with our attorneys (both from the IEA and the coalition), we feel the choice concept has the greatest chance of being constitutional. Each choice in SB 2404 contains something one can exchange for something else.

    All choices have a consideration of constitutionally protected and enforceable guaranteed funding by the state, and a Pension Stabilization Fund, which adds more money into paying off the unfunded liability of the pension systems.

    In the past, there have been choice bills that we have opposed. What made them unconstitutional was that they did NOT offer any significant consideration (giving something of value to members in exchange for what they were asked to give up). SB 2404 offers choice with what we believe is significant consideration.

    I think IEA deserves a lot of credit for not giving up when the could have, for perseverance, and for creatively trying to find alternatives to SB1, and maybe, just maybe remodeling Illinois Political landscape ( alternative to Madigan). To be brutally honest it is way too early to know if we will be successful! But I applaud President Klickna for having the creativity and courage to attempt a restructuring of the Illinois Political landscape — not accepting a defeat, a down ball, a safety but making a play to score!

    Bob Haisman

  4. Glen,

    Thank you for the comprehensive list of revenue ideas. There are a few new ones I had not heard. I will certainly discuss the revenue ideas with legislators tomorrow at lobby day.
    It would be great to have a few of these ideas get mandated to paying for the pension debt.
    Hope to see you at lobby day.

    Tom Tully

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