The nutty Trump trolls, the Korea agreement and Democrat cold-warriors.

Daniel Ellsberg. “I personally can’t imagine” says Ellsberg, “an agreement that would be worse — which would not be incomparably better — than a war with North Korea.”

Yesterday I posted about the results of the Korea summit  meeting between Kim Jung Un and Donald Trump in very positive terms.

My brother framed the results in broader global terms. You should check his post out. 

I am truly baffled by those who claim to be progressive or on the left bashing the meeting as if the threat of nuclear engagement that both Kim and Trump had been threatening for the past year was just so much rhetoric.

I don’t for a minute doubt that war was a growing possibility. I am not alone in this.

Daniel Ellsberg is quoted in The Intercept:

“I personally can’t imagine” says Ellsberg, “an agreement that would be worse — which would not be incomparably better — than a war with North Korea.”

Yet some liberals express outrage that Trump met with a dictator.

Or that he gave up joint military games with South Korea.

Or that Kim somehow out-played Trump.

They sound like old fifties cold-warriors.

Others on the left were more sophisticated. They saw the positive. There was an important discussion on Democracy Now!

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Tim, I wanted to ask you about the statement that they signed, that the two leaders signed, that basically had four general points about committing to establishing new relationships between the United States and the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea and building a stable and lasting peace. But one of the principles is reaffirming the April 27, 2018, Panmunjom Declaration, which is—really came out of the meeting of the South Korean leader and the North Korean leader back on April 28th. So this is really, basically, reaffirming what has already been negotiated, which is working toward an end to the Korean War.

TIM SHORROCK: That’s right. And I thought that was actually significant, because it does put the two Koreas back in the middle of this, of the middle of any agreement. And, of course, that Panmunjom Declaration did say, you know, ending the war, ending the hostility, and taking steps to end the hostilities, and then, of course, expanding it to make a peace treaty ending—formally ending the war, which would have to include China and the United States. Now, I was a little surprised that, you know, they didn’t actually say they were going to have a peace treaty or announce the end of the Korean War, as some people—as, actually, Trump had led people to anticipate. But I think it’s very important that this is included.

And In These Times published a good critique of MSNBC liberals like Rachel Madow.

Christine Ahn: Eighty-eight percent of South Koreans support the recent peace declaration between North and South Korea which says we’ve ended the Korean War and we’re starting a new era. I just came back from South Korea where women were saying, “Could you please tell the American people and international community that we want peace. Please could you pressure your government and silence the hardliners who are trying to derail this process for us?”

Isn’t that reason enough to support the peace process? We’ve allowed partisan politics to get in the way. Democrats don’t want to give a bone to Trump because it might impact the midterm elections. That’s just killing me.

But the irony is that in spite of this, the Trump trolls who never take the trouble to actually read what I post, insisted that I said just the opposite.

Of the dozens of pro-Trump anonymous comments I have received in the past day, most were like this one:

Fred and his nutty followers will surely find fault with Trump regardless of Trump’s efforts and possible peaceful outcome. They hate to see Trump succeed. Would rather not have peace than have Trump successful. THAT, is true hate!